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The Future of the Church and Israel
One day yet in the future today’s Church’s ministry will be completed in order for Israel to take back her position as God’s chosen nation. This will happen; the only question that remains is when.
Today’s challenges are unprecedented.
Today we are facing unprecedented challenges for the future. This year’s virus pandemic (2020) has caused predictions of world-wide financial doom and gloom. Many countries are facing bankruptcy with impossible debt to repay. The only way out appears to be to have a global financial reset to stabilise our world trade. Or so it seems to be if we take note of many leading economists. In fact, a global financial reset is in the process of being planned.
A global financial reset is planned for January 2021.
In January (26th – 29th) there will be a World Economic Forum held at Davos, Switzerland, where the global economy will be reshaped.
(Correction: “The Great Reset” will now be held later, for reasons yet unannounced, probably around June or July, 2021.)
“The Great Reset is a new initiative from the World Economic Forum and HRH the Prince of Wales to guide decision-makers on the path to a more resilient, sustainable world beyond coronavirus.”
“The economic fallout from COVID-19 dominates risk perceptions, but there is a unique opportunity to reshape the global economy.” (World Economic Forum)
‘ “The Great Reset” is a commitment to jointly and urgently build the foundations of our economic and social system for a more fair, sustainable and resilient future.’ (World Economic Forum)
The Bible prophesies total economic control in the future.
During what is referred to as the Great Tribulation, a global leader will legislate total control over all man’s financial dealings.
Revelation 13:16-17 – 16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
The Bible calls this global leader of Revelation 13:16-17 the “man of sin” and “the son of perdition” (2 Thessalonians 2:3) He is also known as the antichrist, a man under the control of satan. Revelation 13 calls him “the beast”, and “the mark” of Revelation 13:17 is known as “the mark ….. of the beast”.
Satan will try to use this evil global leader to gain total control of the earth.
During the final 7 years before Christ returns to take up His millennial reign on earth, satan will use this man to attempt to gain authority over the whole earth. Of course, satan will fail, because God will protect His people, Israel, from destruction by the antichrist (see Revelation 12) and God is sovereign over all His creation, including satan.
Much biblical prophecy remains unfulfilled, especially the end-times prophecy.
There is much biblical prophecy still unfulfilled. Most of this relates to what is commonly referred to as the Apocalypse, Armageddon, the second coming of Christ, and the millennial reign of Christ (that is, Christ the Messiah will return to earth to reign as King for 1,000 years). And, of course, the consequent judgment that will send all mankind to either heaven or hell: the great white throne judgment of Revelation 20:11-15.
Many (including calvinists) deny a literal end-times tribulation and millennial reign of Christ.
Many (mainly including those of calvinist or reformed beliefs) consider such end-times prophecy to have already been fulfilled in the past (the preterist view) or that such prophecies (including the millennial rule of Christ) are allegorical, and that there will be no literal thousand year (millennium) rule by Christ (the amilliennial view). These views also believe that if there is any end-times prophecy yet unfulfilled, then it is the Church, not Israel, that is involved. They believe that whenever Israel is mentioned (especially in prophecy), it is the Church that fulfills it. They teach that Israel has either been made a part of the Church or has completely ceased to exist in her own right. This is the general view of calvinism, that if God’s people go through any end-times tribulation, then it is the Church, not Israel, that is involved. But the Bible declares them to be wrong!
Israel is the nation central to end-times prophecy.
However, Israel is named as God’s people who are involved with the end-times tribulation leading up to Armageddon, as taught in Revelation Ch 7 through to Ch 19. This is also strongly supported by OT books such as Daniel and Zechariah.
God made an everlasting covenant with Abraham through his son, Isaac.
Genesis 17:19 – And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, [and] with his seed after him.
And an everlasting covenant will only be broken if God should lie, and God will not lie! It will last forever, just as God has promised!
Numbers 23:19 – God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Daniel prophesied a timeline of 490 years for Israel’s everlasting righteousness.
Daniel 9:24 foretold of a 490-year (70 times 7 years) timeline for Israel that will culminate in her everlasting righteousness.
Daniel 9:24 – Seventy weeks (of years) are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
This is literally God’s mission statement for His chosen nation of Israel. It has never been revoked. One day Israel will return to being God’s chosen nation.
Ezekiel 37:25-28 – 25And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, [even] they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever: and my servant David [shall be] their prince for ever. 26Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 28And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
There would be 483 years to the time of the crucifixion.
In Daniel 9:24-27 Daniel prophesied that “from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks” (Daniel 9:25) It is clear that a week represented 7 years; therefore 69 weeks of years is 483 calendar years and this appears to bring them to Christ’s time on earth. Note that the Jewish year was 360 days, not 365¼ days as is used today. Also, “after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off” (Daniel 9:26); this clearly refers to His crucifixion (although some might argue that it applied to His rejection by His people). We are not certain exactly which commandment went forth to commence the count-down, nor precisely when that commandment was issued. But all calculations considering all reasonable events brings the end of that 69 weeks to around 20 to 40 AD (many place it between 25 and 30 AD).
The future world leader would be of the Romans.
After the 69th week, “the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary” (Daniel 9:26). We know that the generation of Jews who rejected Jesus also were to see Jerusalem and their temple destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD. It was the Romans who destroyed “the city and the sanctuary” and therefore the prince who would come later would be of that same people: the Romans. This is likely to refer to a revived Roman Empire that rises from the ruins of the Roman Empire of Jesus’ day.
The following passage describes the 4th kingdom (or empire) of Nebuchadnezzar’s vision of a man in Daniel 2. It refers to the Roman empire which will be strong as iron, yet will in future times break up into 10 separate kingdoms, after which God will set up the millennial reign of Christ the Messiah.
Daniel 2:40-44 – 40And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all [things]: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. 41And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. 42And [as] the toes of the feet [were] part of iron, and part of clay, [so] the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. 44And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, [but] it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
There will be 10 kingdoms which give their power to the antichrist.
These 10 kings (as per the 10 toes of the figure in Daniel 2) are ten kings who help put the antichrist into power.
Revelation 17:12 – And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
This future “Roman” prince will make a covenant with Israel for 7 years.
It is that same prince who will “confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease” (Daniel 9:27). This is that final, yet-to-happen 7-year period on Israel’s timeline. Israel has but 7 years left to run, after which God will bring in everlasting righteousness for them. That final week of years will commence with the antichrist making a covenant with Israel, probably to protect them in exchange for authority in Jerusalem, something satan has always desired.
The antichrist (indwelt by satan) demands all to worship him.
The antichrist (indwelt by satan) will demand allegiance from the world.
Revelation 13:4 – And they worshipped the dragon (satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Those who refuse to worship the antichrist will be executed.
Revelation 13:15 – And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
In the middle of that final 7-year period the antichrist sets himself up to be worshipped in the temple at Jerusalem.
Satan has always desired to be as God, yet has always failed so far. This is his final effort to try to be as God, and he will fail then too.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 – 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
In the middle of that final 7-year period satan (via his antichrist) will cause other temple sacrifices to cease so that he can take their place as the one worshipped.
“in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease” (Daniel 9:27)
Jesus warned Israel to flee for their lives when they saw this happen.
This event is yet in the future; note that it applies to Israel!
Matthew 24:15-16; 20-21 – 15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
The flight of Israel into the wilderness is also foretold in Revelation 12.
Finally Israel turns to God.
Israel turns back to God after the antichrist has spent 3½ years in Jerusalem seeking the worship of God’s people, Israel. After a massive earthquake in Jerusalem, “the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.” (Revelation 11:13)
Christ their Messiah returns to win the victory at Armageddon.
Revelation 19:19-21 – 19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Israel will recognise Jesus whom they crucified.
“and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him” (Zechariah 12:10).
Following this, Christ their Messiah sets up His 1,000 year reign.
Satan is bound for 1000 years and God’s people reign with Christ for 1000 years.
(Revelation 20:1-5)
The Church is currently taking the place of Israel.
Romans 11 talks of Israel being the natural olive branches on their olive tree. After rejecting Christ, they are pruned off their olive tree and wild olive branches (the Gentiles) are grafted on in their place. One day those wild olive branches (Gentiles) will be pruned off again (when their “fulness …. be come in” – Romans 11:25) and Israel may then be regrafted back onto their olive tree and so “all Israel shall be saved” – Romans 11:26. This event may be drawing very close indeed.
One day, before the end, Israel will resume her position as God’s people.
The following word “fulness” is a word which was used to demonstrate that all passengers and merchandise was on board a ship and therefore would then sail (depart).
Romans 11:25-27 – 25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Thus, when the Gentile Church is complete and all are on board (as “fulness” signifies), then Israel will come back onto centre stage as God’s chosen nation once more.
When the Gentile Church is fulfilled, they will depart.
When the Church has fulfilled her purpose on earth, and Israel has retaken her rightful place as God’s people, the Gentile Church will be taken away. We use the word “Rapture” which means the snatching away. God (assumed to be Christ) returns here to take home those who are His.
1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 – 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
The Rapture will happen (7 years before Christ the Messiah returns to reign) when the Gentile Church is fulfilled (its full manifest is on board) and Israel returns to complete her final 7-year period (as prophesied by Daniel) before being brought to everlasting righteousness by God as per Daniel 9:24. Nothing can ever deny Israel this wonderful privilege, for God Himself has promised it, even as early as Abraham.
This global financial reset may be the trigger which starts the final countdown to Armageddon!
All it will take for Israel’s final 7-year period to commence is for the world to slide inexorably toward a global new world order run by a man whom satan will choose for his special servant, the antichrist. If the proposed global reset makes significant steps toward the removal of national sovereignty of world nations, if the world is reshaped to become a more unified entity, then you may anticipate a probability that the final world events are rapidly approaching the time of Israel’s return to centre stage as God’s nation. If there is any effort to take significant control of our finances and sovereignty of our nations, then know that the end may well be very close indeed.
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Calvinists won’t answer straightforward questions
Calvinists can’t answer straightforward questions
Calvinists can’t answer any questions
But they can say, “It’s a mystery!“
Calvinism is a cleverly disguised heresy pretending to be Christian. But it is non-Christian because it denies mankind the right to choose this day whom they will serve.
God says: I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life (Deuteronomy 30:19)
The Bible also says: And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. (Joshua 24:15)
Calvinism teaches the heresy that all mankind is unable to choose life, or to choose this day whom they will serve. Why would God ask them to choose life, or to choose whom they will serve, if they were unable to choose? Yet calvinism demands that their God chooses everything for us. The calvinist God tells us to choose, yet prevents man from obeying him? Calvinists, is your God sadistic? Does he delight in preventing man from obeying him?
Every calvinist doctrine is forced to assume no free will for mankind especially in matters of salvation. Yet the Bible teaches free will to choose to obey or disobey God. If you were to accept the truth of free will as a basic biblical doctrine (which it is), every calvinist doctrine becomes a terrible heresy. If man has free will, no calvinist doctrine can stand. This is why calvinists have to teach no free will for man. Can you refute this (sola scriptura), calvinists? At least try, or is it the impossible question for you?
In Why are calvinists afraid to answer simple straightforward questions? I have asked so many questions with only one response so far (as of 20/04/20). The list just kept on growing exponentially; currently it stands at 50 questions plus Nos. 51-70 added below.
For Questions 1 – 10 go to Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 1.
For Questions 11-20 go to Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 2.
For Questions 21-30 go to Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 3.
For Questions 31-40 go to Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 4.
For Questions 41-50 go to Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 5.
So calvinists, here’s the challenge! Can you answer any of these questions sola scriptura, or will you by your silence admit your inability to answer them? The choice is yours!
51/. Calvinists repeatedly say that the sinners’ prayer is not in the Bible. Then is not the following in the calvinist Bible? Luke 18:13-14a – 13And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as [his] eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to (or “propitiate me”) me a sinner. 14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified [rather] than the other: Calvinists, isn’t this a sinners’ prayer? Calvin says of this: “All that is said is, that after obtaining the pardon of sins he was regarded in the sight of God as righteous.” (Institutes, Book 3, Ch.11, Section 3!)
And how can whoseover call upon the name of the Lord to be saved (Romans 10:13) if one is not permitted to pray?
52/. Calvinists teach that Jesus died only for the sins of those whom the calvinist God chose for heaven, and absolutely no-one else (= limited atonement). They teach that Jesus died to save man, not to make man saveable. For example, gotquestions.com says that Christ died not simply to make justification a possibility but to actually justify those He died for. He died to save them, not to make them savable.
But the God of the Bible died to make all mankind saveable. Romans 10:13 says For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. God has stated that whosoever shall call ….. Whosoever means anyone!
Calvinists say that only those chosen for heaven may call …. but Romans 10:13 clearly means anyone at all who calls upon the name of the Lord. The calvinist God only died for his elect, not for whosoever! Calvinists teach that only the elect may call upon the name of the Lord to be saved; and that anyone else who calls upon the name of the Lord to be saved will not be saved!
Can calvinists please explain why their God did not die for “whosoever” but only for his chosen ones? Jesus certainly died to make all mankind saveable. Any saveable person (that is, all mankind – 1 John 2:2) who calls upon the name of the Lord will activate that “saveability” in his life. (see Romans 3:23-26)
Calvinists, your God is clearly not the God of the Bible, is he?
53/. Boettner (in “The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination” P 172) says: “And since the plan of redemption is thus traced back into eternity, the plan to permit man to fall into the sin from which he was thus to be redeemed must also extend back into eternity; otherwise there would have been no occasion for redemption.“ That is, establishing the plan of redemption then required that Adam must fall into sin in order to not waste that plan! It’s like putting in an alarm system and then making sure someone breaks in so that the expense of the alarm system can be justified. How can calvinists explain this absurdity?
54/. Boettner also says on P 173: “Yet God in no way compelled man to fall. He simply withheld that undeserved constraining grace with which Adam would infallibly not have fallen, which grace He was under no obligation to bestow.“ That’s like the calvinist God throwing Adam over the cliff and ordering him to fly, yet withholding the wings with which he could fly! Calvinists, is your God sadistic? Does he delight in preventing man from obeying him?
55/. Boettner also writes (P 30): “Common sense tells us that no event can be foreknown unless by some means, either physical or mental, it has been predetermined.“ That is, unless the calvinist God predetermines all things, unless he writes the script out beforehand, then he cannot know the future. Boettner says that if man has a free will, then God has to wait until that choice is made before he can act. Furthermore, if the acts of free agents are in themselves uncertain, God must then wait until the event has had its issue before making His plans. (P 31) But the God of the Bible knows all things! Calvinists, why doesn’t your God know the things that the God of the Bible knows?
56/. Piper says (in “What kind of Jesus do you worship?”): “Or if you’re playing Scrabble at home and stick your hand into the bag and pull out your letters, God decides what letters you get.“ So now Piper is the spoil-sport! No more games, for the calvinist God has played them all already and you won’t do anything unless he has written it into the script from the beginning. In fact, you’ll only be playing because the calvinist God ordained that you should play, and even if you feel like playing, if God hasn’t ordained that you should, then you can’t. Piper’s website also says that the calvinist God “even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz.“ But then, the calvinist God can do whatever he wants to do, according to those disillusioned calvinists. His followers will believe anything, if only because their God has ordained from the very beginning that they should be created in order to make everyone else look intelligent. Calvinists, can you think for yourselves or do you passively let your God do all your thinking for you?
57/. A W Pink said (in “The Total Depravity of Man”) that “though God does not esteem evil to be good, yet He accounts it good that evil should be.“ Can any calvinist explain rationally what he is talking about??
58/. Al Mohler said “If you’re a theological minded, deeply convictional young evangelical, if you’re committed to the gospel and want to see the nations rejoice in the name of Christ, if you want to see gospel built and structured committed churches, your theology is just going end up basically being Reformed, basically something like this new Calvinism, or you’re going to have to invent some label for what is basically going to be the same thing, there just are not options out there“
In other words, Al, you are claiming new calvinism to be the only right option, aren’t you? That only those who agree with you are theologically correct? Then demonstrate it by answering the previous 57 questions sola scriptura! Not one calvinist so far has tried even one question yet! Can you defend your statement above or admit defeat by your inability to answer? Can you demonstrate from the Bible alone (sola scriptura) that calvinism is the only theologically correct doctrine? Remember that silence is the greatest compliment a calvinist can ever pay to those who oppose him.
59/. Calvin calls satan God’s minister (or servant) (Institutes Bk 1, Ch.18, Section 2) and says that “Satan cannot possibly do anything against the will and consent of God and that Satan is under the power of God, and is so ruled by his authority, that he must yield obedience to it.” (Institutes Bk 1, Ch.14, Section 17) Calvin also teaches that satan is completely under the command of God: “even Satan when he is the instrument of divine wrath, is completely under the command of God, who turns him as he will in the execution of his just judgments.” (Institutes Bk 2, Ch.4, Section 2)
So, calvinists, what is the point of satan as an enemy if what he does is by the command of God? Does this mean that the calvinist God is also the enemy of his elect by ordering satan to oppose his elect as their enemy?
60/. Augustine, whose teachings are the basis for Calvin’s teachings, said (in his “Enchiridion”) that, “since every being, in so far as it is a being, is good, if we then say that a defective thing is bad, it would seem to mean that we are saying that what is evil is good, that only what is good is ever evil and that there is no evil apart from something good. ….. Now, if a man is something good because he is an entity, what then, is a bad man except an evil good? ….. if there were no good in what is evil, then the evil simply could not be, since it can have no mode in which to exist“
Can any calvinist please explain what Augustine is talking about? How is it biblical? Is Augustine rational? This appears to be based on Augustine’s Manichean Gnostic roots where salvation depended upon man obtaining ultimate knowledge free from corrupting evil. It also seems to relate to occult Yin and Yang beliefs. Can any calvinists give any support for Augustine’s irrational thinking here (sola scriptura!)?
61/. Terry Arnold (with Mike Claydon) of taministries teaches (in “Arminianism, Hyper-Calvinism, Strawmen…and The Truth”) that “‘free will’ in salvation is never shown in the Bible after the fall of man.” He quotes John 6:44 (‘No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him’). But this verse does not say anywhere that all who are drawn must come! Instead it is saying that all who come must have been drawn! This verse cannot deny the free will of man to resist such drawing, noting that all are drawn to the cross in John 12:32. So, Terry, John 6:44 does not teach that no free will exists; instead you rest your teachings here upon a mere assumption that no free will exists. On its own, an assumption cannot be stated as fact. And such an assumption here is false. Your teaching here is inconsistent with the biblical truth that man has free will to choose.
Arnold (with Claydon) also uses Romans 3:11 to defend his teachings here. However, not seeking after God is an act of the will. Man will not seek after God. It does not say that man can not seek after God! Can you prove (sola scriptura) that Romans 3:11 can not mean “will not”? If you can’t, then you cannot disprove the free will of man!
And how do you make this agree with Jeremiah 29:13? Why would God say: And ye shall seek me, and find [me], when ye shall search for me with all your heart, if He knew they couldn’t do so?
For further information see Questions 6, 47, 50 of Why are calvinists afraid to answer simple straightforward questions?
62/. Calvinists teach that God’s will cannot be influenced in any way by any free will decisions of man. Calvinist Slick says “Saying that He simply knows what free will choice they’re going to make is problematic because it means that God is then contingent upon the choices of individuals. ….. what you’re saying is that His choices are contingent upon the so-called free will choices of man, and that violates the doctrine of God’s aseity.“
So it didn’t influence God’s will at all when the king of Nineveh repented after being told that Nineveh would be destroyed?
And did the calvinist God foreordain (or decree) the sin of mankind in order to justify the bringing of a flood upon them to destroy them? Then such a God is sadistic. Or did the sin of mankind influence God’s decision to destroy the world in a flood?
And the ultimate question: If the calvinist God’s will cannot be influenced by man, then doesn’t that prove that all sin and wickedness are created by the calvinist God?
Can you explain how God’s actions here can possibly be independent of (not influenced by) any choices that man made??
See Questions 63 and 64 below for further notes on this topic.
63/. Calvinists teach that the will of their God is the only independent will that may exist in the universe. No other will may ever oppose or influence God’s will at any time. They also teach that the calvinist God is incomplete if he cannot demonstrate his wrath against sin ( calvinists teach that wrath is an attribute of their God). Therefore the calvinist God must create that sin in order to be angry at it and thus be fulfilled. According to calvinism, man cannot influence the calvinist God’s will by choosing to sin because man would then be manipulating the calvinist God to react. Calvinists, did your God create sin so that he could be wrathful against those who sin? The God of the Bible didn’t!!
64/. Likewise, the calvinist God must demonstrate his grace to be fulfilled. If his elect never sinned, then he could show no grace in forgiving them. Therefore the calvinist God must decree that his elect sin in order to be able to forgive them by his grace. Because no other will may influence the calvinist God in any way, he must decree that the elect fall into sin so that he may rescue them. They themselves cannot choose to sin because that would be influencing the sovereign calvinist God’s will. Calvinists, does your God make you sin in order to reveal his sovereign grace in you, his “elect”?
65/. If a non-calvinist Christian opposes calvinism, does he do this by his own free will or by the decree of the calvinist God? Calvinists have to deny both options. (And opposing calvinism certainly cannot be a random event!) Calvinists have to deny that the non-calvinist could have free will to choose salvation and to also choose to not believe in calvinism, yet also have to deny that their God would choose to save someone yet decree that person to oppose him. So how can calvinists accept non-calvinists as Christian brethren without compromising their beliefs?
66/. Calvinists often overuse a small number of verses to teach their heresies. One of their more over-worked misused verses is Romans 9:16 (So then [it is] not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.) They claim that it proves that man has no free will to ask God for mercy because their God does all the choosing. But, the context of this chapter is the rejected nation of Israel (who used to be God’s elect nation but had been replaced by the Gentile church). So calvinists, where does it say that people have no free will to plead for God’s mercy unless God has willed it first? What about the publican in Luke 18:13 who chose to pray, “God be merciful to me a sinner.”?? Didn’t God show him mercy because he pleaded for mercy (clearly by his free will choice)? So how does Romans 9:16 deny free will?
67/. Why do calvinists base the assessment of their beliefs on how well they evangelise? After all, if the level of evangelism is the measure of your biblical correctness, then the JWs and mormons would have you beaten hands down! Does that make them more biblical than you? False religions also evangelise! It’s the converts you produce who determine your biblical correctness! Calvinists, isn’t it true that your evangelism produces puritans, and not necessarily saved Christians?
68/. On Sept. 5, 1536, Calvin began his rule of Geneva by giving lectures at the Church of St. Peter. Schaff (History of the Christian Church, Vol 8) wrote: “On July 29, 1537, the Council of the Two Hundred ordered all the citizens, male and female, to assent to the Confession of Faith in the Church of St. Peter. ….. On Nov. 12, the Council even passed a measure to banish all who would not take the oath. The Confession was thus to be made the law of Church and State. This is the first instance of a formal pledge to a symbolical book by a whole people. It was a glaring inconsistency that those who had just shaken off the yoke of popery as an intolerable burden, should subject their conscience and intellect to a human creed; in other words, substitute for the old Roman popery a modern Protestant popery. Of course, they sincerely believed that they had the infallible Word of God on their side; but they could not claim infallibility in its interpretation.” Doesn’t this make Calvin a dictator? Isn’t it clear that Calvin was a bully-boy? Can calvinists explain how Calvin’s protestant rule was any different to the catholic rule? Isn’t it apparent that Calvin merely took the place of the pope of Rome?
69/. Calvinists, was King David one of the elect of God? If you say he was, then please answer this: Did the calvinist God ordain that King David should commit adultery and murder? Remember, calvinism cannot permit King David to have chosen of his own free will to commit such sin.
And how could you say King David was not one of the elect of God, when God had said, “I have found David the [son] of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.” (Acts 13:22)???
70/. Why do reformed churches try to hide the truth about some pastors who commit adultery? I personally know of a Presbyterian minister who ran off with another woman and no-one in the church wanted to talk about one of their guaranteed elect committing adultery. And I was acquainted with a Lutheran pastor who likewise ran off with another woman. I was told that he was not dismissed for doing so, but instead was transferred to another position. Why is it so hard for reformed pastors to be removed from their pastoral position for serious sin? Is it because they have been declared elect when ordained, and are required to persevere until the end?
Some of you reading this may not be calvinists but instead may be reading this through curiosity, or maybe you have a problem with calvinist conflict at your church, so please note that not one single calvinist has presented (on this website) a logical and biblical challenge to my forthright statements about their heresy. Are they so afraid of losing that they dare not commit themselves? Surely this alone tells you the quality (or lack of it!) of their arguments when challenged to defend them from the Bible alone – sola scriptura. Also note that just being a calvinist doesn’t necessarily make you lost. Many good Christians have been corrupted by false calvinist heresies, and merely need to get out of those false teachings to come back to biblical doctrines. But, if you are relying on your calvinist gospel to save you, then be aware that only the biblical gospel can save: Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved! Without the application of the biblical gospel, you are lost! You must choose this day whom you will serve! The God of the Bible will not force you to go to either heaven or hell against your will; He asks you to choose life through Jesus Christ or you will be condemned to hell for refusing to call upon the name of the Lord to be saved.
So, is there any calvinist sure enough of his beliefs to argue them from the Bible alone? Remember, no comment means no opposition! Silence is always taken as agreement. If your calvinism is worth defending, then defend it. But no defense means nothing worth defending! Does your belief in calvinism dissipate like so much hot air in the face of any reasonable opposition?
So far the silence has been deafening, spurring me on to accuse more and more simply because no reason has been presented to me to not do so. By your silence you are hereby found guilty as charged! If I accuse and no-one defends, then I am free to accuse further. Calvinists, it is in your hands to defend or to acknowledge your guilt!
There are just so many questions calvinists cannot answer that it would be far quicker (and shorter, too) to list all the questions calvinists can answer!
Go to the complete list of questions Why are calvinists afraid to answer simple straightforward questions?
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For Questions 1 – 10 at Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 1.
For Questions 11-20 at Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 2.
For Questions 21-30 at Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 3.
For Questions 31-40 at Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 4.
For Questions 41-50 at Impossible Questions for Calvinists Part 5.
For further reading also please try the following:
Calvinisms
1/. The calvinist gospel in a nutshell.
2/. Calvinists teach universal salvation.
3/. Calvinists teach that God’s elect have eternal life before they can come to Christ to receive eternal life.
4/. The calvinist god cannot be eternal.
5/. Calvinist salvation is not a gift of God.
6/. Calvinists teach that if we willingly receive this gift of salvation, then that makes the gift imperfect.
7/. The calvinist unconditional election is really a conditional election.
8/. Calvinism does not teach assurance of salvation.
9/. The calvinist god is a dictator.
10/. The calvinist god is the only willful sinner in the universe.
The Oxymorons of Calvinist Doctrine
Oxymoron No.1 – God created sin and then punished Adam for it!
Oxymoron No.2 – Merciful, loving and gracious God predestined most of mankind to go to hell without any other option!
Oxymoron No.3 – Calvinism is the gospel!
Oxymoron No.4 – Be born again before you can believe on the Lord Jesus Christ!
Oxymoron No.5 – Evangelize the world without the gospel?
Oxymoron No.6 – Calvinists claim to be Christians yet are not saved by Christ.
Oxymoron No.7 – The calvinists cry “Christ Alone”, yet leave Him out of the picture until after a person is “saved”.
Oxymoron No.8 – The calvinists cry “The Bible Alone”, yet ignore its truths in favour of Calvin’s teachings.
Oxymoron No.9 – The calvinists cry “Faith Alone”, yet faith is not part of their salvation until after they have been born again.
Oxymoron No.10 – God chose Israel as His special nation, and then ordained that it sin and be rejected.
And here’s another post to check out with a lot of good reading about the bad logic of calvinism and the god they serve.
Try When Calvinism’s “Bad Logic” Traps Good Christians
The author of this post speaks from first-hand experience in defining the evil deception in the calvinism that caused her to leave her church of many years. Why does calvinism (which proclaims the loving goodness of their allegedly sovereign god) cause so much division and heart-ache?? It’s those who have escaped this vile deception who can speak most authoritatively about it. But, be prepared for a long read! Calvinism has so much deception that it just cannot be dealt with in a few sentences!
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